Tuesday, May 3, 2011

Stacey Barker Murder Trial - First Day Testimony

First Witness - Sue Barker

 Stacey Barker's mother, Sue Barker, was the first witness to be called in the state's case in chief. I plan to write this in a question and answer format. Sometimes it seems as though the questions are all over the place.  Kelly Cromer told the jury not to try to read anything into the questions she and Dager ask or how they are asked so I'll take her word for it. :)
I'll use abbreviations as follows for the defendant and those speaking in court today....

"JZ" for Judge Hayden Zackey
"KC" for  Deputy District Attorney Kelly Cromer
"RD" for Deputy Public Defender Roberto Dager
"Sue" for Sue Barker
"SB" for Stacey Barker

KC - You were served a subpoena to appear today. Do you want to be here? Sue - No, I don't want to be here.

KC - Would  you identify Stacey Barker if you see her in the courtroom? Sue - Points at Stacey at the defense table.

KC - Would you tell the court your kids names and birth dates? Sue - Matt, Stacey 01/02/1985, and Nick (I listed in birth order but didn't note birth date for the boys.)

KC - How long has Stacey been living with you? Sue - Stacey got her own apartment when she turned 18, but she moved back home as soon as she became pregnant with Emma. She lived back at home for 27 months. She continued working while pregnant but took a month off work before delivering Emma by C-section and then 3 months after Emma was born.

KC - Who cared for Emma when Stacey went back to work? Sue - When Stacey went back to Bank Of America (BOA) she went on the 5:30 am to 2:30 pm shift and I went to the 6 pm to 2:30 am shift so that I could watch Emma while she worked. She paid me $100 a week for babysitting.

KC - Who took care of Emma the most? Sue - I did, but everyone had their own room. Emma slept in with Stacey until she went back to work and then we converted an office into Emma's room. We gave her a crib for a gift. Emma was a normal baby but she had delayed speech.

KC - Why delayed speech? RD - objected, speculation. JZ - Overruled, she can answer if she knows.  
Sue - Yes, because she was spoiled.

KC -  How was Emma treated? Sue -  Like a princess.

KC -  How was Stacey treated? Sue -  Like a princess. She was always a Daddy's girl.

KC -  Who did Stacey start dating New Years Eve? Mike from work? Sue -  I can't remember the other guy's name
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KC - Was Stacey often focused on new relationships? Sue - Yes, sometimes, but Emma came first.

KC - Did she ever date a Hispanic guy, dye her hair black, tan and shave her eyebrows and then draw them on with liner? Sue - Yeah...she lived with that guy.

KC -  Did Stacey try and take on whatever persona or role she thought a guy wanted her to be? Sue - Yes.

KC -  Was she treated bad by men? Sue - Yes.

KC - Did she approach her relationships with such intensity that she drove them away? Sue - I can't remember.

KC - Since Mr. Dager brought it up, are you an alcoholic? Sue - Yes.

KC - Have you drank today? Sue -  It's been 12 days since I drank alcohol. I drank before Emma died, but after she died I drank everyday.

KC - Do you have depression? Sue - Yes. KC -Does the depression or medications cloud your memory? Sue - No.

KC - Who did you sit with at Emma's funeral? Sue - I sat with Nick, Stacey and my sister at the viewing. I sat with my son and my sister at the funeral.

KC - Why didn't you sit with Stacey? Sue - I don't know.

KC - Was there anything that you did after the funeral that you didn't do before? Sue - No.

KC - Did you lock your bedroom door? I can refresh your memory with a transcript from your police interview, Who were you afraid of ? Sue - Stacey

KC - Not trust her? Sue - Yes. KC - Did you think she was capable of murder? RD - Objection! JZ - Over ruled. Sue - No.

RD - Objection! Opinion! JZ - In 2009, did you think she was capable of murder and now you don't? Sue - No response given

KC - On 3/19/2009, did you think Stacey killed Emma? Didn't you tell Detective Nava if the things you were saying about Stacey got back to your husband, Gary, that you would lose him? (Showed transcript)
Sue - Yes.

KC - When Stacey told you what happened to Emma on 3/20 what did she say? Sue - An accident with a baggy playing peek a boo and the blanket got caught on the car seat. She was worried people would think she was a bad mother. Brendon came and stayed that night. She wasn't crying when telling the story but after she was confronted, she cried. RD - Ask to strike as hearsay! Was last question and answer striked?

KC - Did Detective Nava ask you did Stacey do this? Sue - Yes, I did tell Nava that

KC - Do you believe she is capable of killing Emma? Sue - Yes

KC - Was Stacey going to Long beach to see Anthony on the 18th of March? Sue - No. KC -Going for money? Sue - No, she was due to get several thousand dollars back in income tax, she didn't need money.

KC - Did Stacey express any regrets? Sue - I asked her if she tried to save Emma and she said no.

KC - Did Emma have an incident with an allergic reaction to peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Blotchy itchy lips? Sue - Yes, Stacey took Emma to the emergency room right away.

KC - Did you and Stacey have fights before March 18 about caring for Emma and threaten to kick her out of the house? Sue - No

KC - Did you ever argue with Stacey about you coming home from work and needing to find someone to watch Emma? Sue -  I can't remember.

KC - Did Brendon back track to your house on March 18 to pick up Nick? Sue - Yes, I didn't know then.

KC - Did Stacey get a new cell phone after law enforcement took her phone? Sue - When the box came I thought it was some DVD and toys that I had ordered for Emma but didn't come until after...

KC - Who bought things for Emma? Sue - I  bought most of her toys and Stacey bought her clothes. Emma had a stuffed animal she called "Bear Bear"  and a blanket she called "Binky" that she like to take with her in the car  and she always she slept with.

KC - What happened to Binky? Sue - I  don't know. KC - Did you put Bear Bear in Emma's casket? Sue - Yes, when I asked Stacey where Binky was she said she didn't know. KC - To put in the casket too?
Sue - Yes

KC - On March 18, 2009 you argued with Stacey about coming straight home from work, was this the first time?  Sue -  Coming home on time? KC - Only time? Sue - Only that day. I had an appointment at 3:30 that was only 5 minutes away so I wanted to take a nap before.

(Tori notes here that Sue seems flustered with these questions, possibly because she didn't want to say they argued because Stacey hadn't got home the night before until 2:30 am. When asked in the preliminary she said she wouldn't know what time Stacey got home because she was at work. Remember, Sue told Detective Nava that she was afraid of losing her husband if she said anything against Stacey. Court breaks here for 15 minutes. back at 3:15. When court reconvened Stacey Barker's brother, Matt, came into the courtroom....after the break, Tori noted many of Sue's answers to any "hard" questions was "I don't recall.")

KC - Was Stacey neat or a slob? Who cleaned Emma's room? Sue - We both straightened Emma's room but the maid cleaned.

KC - Was Stacey a good student? Sue - She got some A's and B's mostly C's.

KC -  What did Stacey tell you about the baggy in her purse ? Sue -  I saw the baggy. She had Girl Scout cookies in it, Thin mints. KC - What kind of a baggy was it? A real ziplock baggy or another type?
Sue -  real

KC -  Did Stacey keep a neat purse? Sue - Yes.  KC - She wasn't like me...bag stuffed with every receipt?  Sue - No. KC - Did you ever see Emma play with Stacey's purse? Sue - Yes. KC -  Did you lie to Detective Nava about that? Sue - I was in shock. KC - Is your memory better now than then? Sue -  People remember important things.

KC - When is dinner time for Emma? Sue - I don't know I went to work at 5:30.

KC - How coordinated was Emma? RD- Objection, calls for speculation! JZ- It's first hand information. (The question wasn't answered although it sounds as though JZ permitted it. KC moved on.)

KC - Did anyone give Emma Benedryl ? Sue - No  KC - Was Emma teething? Sue - No, but we used Tylenol and a teething ring when she was.

KC - asked some  questions about the Lunchable that Emma had for dinner that night, where it was bought and what was in it. RD- objected, relevance ? JZ must have over ruled the objection .Sue- answered it was bought at Stater Brother's Market. I didn't get Sue's answer about the contents of the lunchable. Court recessed for the day. Sue Barker will be back on the stand tomorrow, Thursday April 28.
 
It was a long day in court for everyone. Thanks to Tori for taking such in depth notes...it was much more than I expected. Kudos to Tiff, ANurse, Ange and Gabe for helping to fill in some blanks as well. Here is a link to the opening statements from earlier in the day. Sphere: Related Content

25 comments:

  1. Thank you for all your hard work. I've been keeping up with this trial only by the help of your blog.

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  2. Thank you for your updates...I check often to see what's new. The local paper just doesn't do this justice. I appreciate the time spent in court and the detail in which you all share the events. Keep up the good work!

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  3. Oh KF well done!

    Our friends take excellent notes!

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  4. A note to Anon 5/3 6:02 pm and 7:32 pm,
    Welcome to Katfish....Ponders and thanks for taking the time to comment! More coverage coming up.

    I also post these blogs at nowpublic.com There are some great commenters over there too :)

    http://my.nowpublic.com/search?fulltext=1&type=story&keys=Stacey+Barker

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  5. Thank you Katfish for the excellent article!

    I am very impressed with those attending the trial. They are really taking some excellent detailed notes!

    A main stream reporter would not provide that kind of detail.

    I'll check back later today! I appreciate all of the ladies who are sharing this info with those of us who are following this case.

    Questions:

    What is Stacey's demeanor in court?

    Did she look at Sue when Sue testified?

    Does Stacey confer with her attorney or take notes?

    What does she wear to court? Is she dressed conservatively?

    Does Stacey ever look at the jury?

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  6. I know Ann, Tori is doing a fantastic job taking notes in court and of course those attending with her deserve kudos as well because they are our eyes and ears and help to fill in gaps that T may miss...LOL she is a superwoman but a little help from friends is a good thing. LOL
    I'm sure she will come and answer your questions later. We were on the phone for 3 hours again last night covering yesterday's testimony. I know she has been checking out some other things too from past comments at NowPublic. She has made some comments on the last 2 or 3 posts here about that. Perhaps if she doesn't have time one of our other reporters from the "trenches" will chime in.

    Thank you for linking us out there in blog land...this trial is proving to be very interesting...I'm working on day 2 today. :) I will try and get around soon to say hi where you have linked us...been very busy.

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  7. Hi, Katfish!

    Checking in for an update! I'll check in later tonight.

    I can imagine how very busy all of you are. Toria and the ladies attending the trial are awesome with their details.

    LCoastMom has been updating Emma's thread, with her comments, at Reality Chatter(RC). We really appreciate it.

    Reality Chatter has a high readership.

    I Linked this article on Emma's thread at RC.

    No hurry on answering my questions. Some one can answer them whenever they have a chance.

    Anxiously awaiting your next article, Katfish!

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  8. Fantastic reporting. I wanted to turn the page to read more. Am looking forward to it being continued. Thanks for "carrying" this Katfish!

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  9. @ LCM, How ya doin mama? Glad to hear you're keeping the Reality Chatter thread updated. I went over a while back but didn't comment...that's all I need to do is start "chatting" bwwwwaahhh! You know how I am, yak yak :) I will try and connect after this trial is over.

    @Ann, I talked to Tori on lunch break and she answered your questions. She said that SB's demeanor in court is as though she is bored. Stacey doesn't seem to be making eye contact with anyone, not the jury, her mom,her brother Nick, or bf Brendon when they have been testifying. She takes no notes. On occasion she will whisper in Dager's ear when someone is testifying, but for the most part seems to have little interest in the case. Oh, and SB has been dressing conservatively in court....looks like she is robbing one of her granny's closets.

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  10. Hi, Katfish!

    Thank you for asking Tori my questions and responding here.

    Stacey's demeanor won't impress a jury. I had a feeling she would be dressed like a little conservative granny.

    It is not good if she can not even make eye contact with her mother or brother regardless of their testimony.

    I would think she would be taking notes to share with her attorney when he cross examines the witness. It does sound like she is bored.

    Does she appear depressed? In a stupor?

    Will her father be testifying?

    Katfish, I bet you wish I would quit asking questions. I have a list of 100 questions and I am refraining from typing all of them. Only kidding!

    Yes, LCM is doing an excellent job of keeping Emma's thread updated at Reality Chatter. There are not a lot of comments but the readership is high.

    Please do not worry about dropping by and commenting. I know you are very busy. After the trial is over, you can comment if you so choose.

    I will continue to check in! Special thanks to you, Tori and the ladies attending the trial. Also, LCoastMom!

    ~ ~ ~ Justice for precious Emma! ~ ~ ~

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  11. Hi Ann! Most of the time SB just has a blank stare on her face - she doesn't look depressed or stuporish (sorry I know that isn't correct). She listens but just looks bored - like it isn't her who caused all this or will spend LIFE in prison when this is done. There were times early on when she appeared "out of it" she would come in mad and kind of stomping her feet or sometimes just dragging, with her head down, but for the last year she has just walked in - tried to catch a quick glance at her family, gives them a smile sometimes.

    The first hearing I attended, as she returned to the holding cell she looked over her shoulder and mouthed "I love you" - but the family was already heading out and missed it - after that they stayed in their seats until she was out of the room. I guess they benefited from our blogging too.

    From pictures I've seen of SB before she murdered Emma - she wasn't an outlandish dresser to begin with but she was always neat and "put together" - makes me laugh that she now looks like an old granny - I'm sure she hates it. The jury only sees her top anyway, she is seated before they enter because she is wearing leg irons but her handcuffs are off. (No pink hair, weird body piercings or such like we heard about Abigail Young).

    So far I don't think SB or the attorneys have heard any surprising testimony (we have heard a few things not mentioned earlier in open court). There was quite a bit of pre-trial done "in camera" - so we'll still have a few surprises.

    Yes, her father Gary is supposed to testify - he has been out of the Courtroom during others testimony.

    It will be interesting to see if SB looks at her dad after ignoring her mom, brother and BB while they were on the stand....

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  12. Hi, LCoastMom!

    Thanks for answering my questions and for the info!

    It should be interesting when Stacey's dad testifies. Is he a witness for the State or the Defense?

    If Stacey is a daddy's girl, I wonder if she will get emotional when he testifies.

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  13. Hi Ann,

    SB has shown no emotion except for yesterday when some of the Jury and Gallery members could be seen crying, when viewing the up close 8X10's of Emma in the weeds and the full face shots of her in death (10 to 15) mind you SB could not see them as the CI was showing them to the Jury with her back to SB, we near the Jury could see them and it made us cry...Brutal! well RD turns and asks the Bailiff for tissues for SB....oh hell no...I didn't buy it, hope the Jury didn't either! she has shown no emotion for 2 years, why now? becasue the Jurors are saddened by the photos?
    No she is not in a daze, she is bored...
    I was wondering the same thing about GB, she was Daddy's girl and he is for her 100%..she might cry but I will keep a good eye on her to see. we don't know when he is on the stand as he is a wit for her and right now it is the states wit's first.
    Ann you can ask all the questions you want, if I or anyone else can answer them we will.
    Kat thanks for listening for hours and doing such a great job, I KNOW Emma's paternal Family members think we are doing a great job for Emma and them....they have said thank you twice now! they are Very lovely people, I would like to mention that his sister, Emma's Aunt got a Tattoo "EMMA" on the side of her foot, it has a lavender flower with shading around it...Just beautiful! I want to ask for a picture of it so you can all see it, she did it as a tribute for Emma on the 2nd anniversary of her death...awwww so sweet!

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  14. Hi Kat,
    As I had said yesterday, it was boring pictures and RD made it clear with his objection of something like "repetition" I think that is what he was saying..toooo many pictures of the same thing, I agree!

    There are 4 interesting pictures that stand out to me, 1 is of the soft loose dirt that is just above the curb at the PNR leading to the fence of where she had thrown her Clothes, ATM Cards and Check book (at least that is what I think it was) over..this pic shows the dirt is disturbed, the next photo shows that the dirt has been dragged from above the curb to below the curb, it is in a line to the front bumper of the car...(my thoughts, if SB had stepped in that dirt and she had flat open toed sandals on wouldn't HER feet have had dirt on them? her SART photos show very clean feet, someone help her by throwing the stuff there)....the 3rd Photo shows the dirt in the front passenger floorboard of her car consistent with the dirt by the fence (this is the seat they found her in when LE got there) and the 4th photo I thought was Interesting was a photo of a lime green and white box in her car that said "PLAN B" on it (the morning after pill) the last picture was the box close up, we could not see if it was empty or a pill was inside.

    This Plan B pill box is Interesting to me because RD keeps trying to get in that SB had some medical problems that might have prevented her from ever having children...Emma was a miracle baby, so I want to know if they ever told her she was NOW able to have children after Emma's birth? I hope that she is NEVER able to have another child as long as she lives, that sounds cruel but she had a chance to raise a beautiful child and she thought it was more Important at this stage in her life to have a social life! aaaarrgggghhh!

    I wanted to add a statement from yesterday that Det. Marsh had said but RD had objected and asked to be stricken, it was stricken....

    KC asks Det.Marsh when did you first have contact with SB? he said when he went to the Sylmar site. Where was she? she was seated in the back seat of an unmarked sheriff car with the window rolled down. What did you do then? I told her who I was and that I was sorry for her loss. What did she say to you? Nothing, no reaction, she just looked out the window, she seemed unconcerned! I bring this up because, she has no emotion at what she is watching, the people removing her child's lifeless body out of the bushes and doing all kinds of Exams, measurements, removing clothes and so forth AND SHE DOES NOT EVEN CRY!

    This would have been the ultimate pain for me, even knowing my child was not alive, all the prodding and touching of my child by strangers seems so intrusive to me, I couldn't have even thought about watching this go on, much less seeing it without bawling my eyes out!

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    Emma, the child that she so loved, her miracle child, her life...and not a tear? Aaaahhhh, really!

    Ok, when I would see something being done to one of my children as babies in the hospital, X rays, shots, blood draws, stitches and anything that made them look at me like "Mommy help me" I cried and had to ask one of my Sisters or my Mom or who ever was with me at the time, to come in and take over for me because I could not help them, Lord knows I wanted to take them out of there....but they needed what was being done, done! (Ange was a klutz as a child so it was more her then the rest...lol)....

    Monday trial starts at 1:30pm and I will let you know who is on the stand...T

    KC had asked NB if he had ever heard of a Narcissistic personality while he was on the stand..

    I looked it up and here is what it says: Narcissistic traits

    Thomas suggests that narcissists typically display most, sometimes all, of the following traits:

    •An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
    •Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
    •A lack of psychological awareness
    •Difficulty with empathy
    •Problems distinguishing the self from others
    •Hypersensitivity to any sleights or imagined insults
    •Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
    •Haughty body language
    •Flattery towards people who admire and affirm him or her
    •Detesting those who do not admire him or her
    •Using other people without considering the cost to them of his or her doing so
    •Pretending to be more important than he or she is
    •Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating his or her achievements
    •Claiming to be an "expert" at most things
    •Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
    •Denial of remorse or guilt for actions.
    I never knew her personally but I see some of these traits in her as we have seen her over the last 2 years, does this one trait "Problems distinguishing the self from others" have anything to do with her "changing herself for the men in her life"

    Was KC thinking SB was in a narcissistic rage at the time?

    Types of narcissistic rage

    Narcissistic rage occurs on a continuum from instances of aloofness, and expression of mild irritation or annoyance, to serious outbursts, including violent attacks and murder. Narcissistic rage reactions are not limited to personality disorders and may be also seen in catatonic, paranoid delusion and depressive episodes.

    That is something to think about when trying to figure out why she acts the way she does, if she has this personality disorder would that excuse the fact that she killed her child (in the eyes of the Law or the Jury)?

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  16. Hi Tori! Thank you for the awesome updates! started working on Day 3 last night and will work on it more tonight...we have sunshine AGAIN! WooHOO!

    I don't think SB having any sort of personality disorder will effect the jury's verdict in her benefit during the trial. The state may be implying that explains her cold behavior.I wonder if they have had someone examine her that could testify to her mental health? I kind of doubt it.

    As a matter of the law, which is what the jury is instucted to use to reach a verdict, a personality disorder won't apply. Her defense didn't offer an insanity defense, if they had, that is an affirmative defense and the burden would shift to them to prove she didn't know right from wrong (the legal standard)to succeed with that defense.Insanity defenses rarely prevail.I've heard like 1% success...not very good odds.IMO, her actions after Emma's death dispell that defense....

    The prisons are full of people with personality disorders! When I would expect her defense to use mental health issues is if she is convicted and to argue for a lighter sentence.

    I will call you this weekend. Will you be around? For now I'm heading outside. {{{HUGS}}}

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  17. Hi Kat and all,

    Here is today's short story...

    They Played the audio recording of her first Interview filled with emotion about what happened to HER...only asked or said something about Emma when led to a discussion about Emma maybe being cold and scared somewhere and how they had 100 people looking for her, that is when she said yeah she might be scared and cold I need my baby....ok..

    Now they play the Audio and Video of the second Interview and the Video shows her with a sad face when the Det's are begging her to tell them what happened to Emma and they know that sometimes Accidents happen and that if that did happen she would not be thought of as a bad person, Please help us bring Emma home, you want her, your Mom wants her and we want her home she continues to say that she didn't know where she is and she didn't do anything to Emma, SHE SWEARS! The Det leave the room and this whole different persona comes out, she looks bored, tired and annoyed, she is picking at her forehead (pimple) running her fingers down and throught the length of her hair, picking her nose (often) drinking water and doing the hair thing again this time she is looking at her ends to see if there are any split ends.

    She looks like she thinks these people are Idiots and she is fooling them, this part of the tape of her alone is 5 to 7 mins long...no crying at all! the Det's come back in as she hears the door opening she starts with the sad face again....ooooohhhhhhhh pissed me off... this happens again like 15 min later, same thing she is different when the Det's are gone....RD objects that they are showing tooooo long of the time alone she has...Over Ruled...

    JZ has seen this Video for the first time ever, he tells the Jury to go on break and when they left he said "I want it on record why I over ruled RD for excessive content....It goes to show her demeaner, she seems to be aloof and busy checking out her split ends, she does this for the whole 5 to 7 min's"

    She does think she is quite the actress....but she is not fooling anyone, I remember thinking when I heard about this Video Interview way back in the prelim that she may have had a "Tude" but this is worse then I ever thought it would be, it looked like she was not one bit interested in being there, she looked Irratated (sp), she did not say just hurry up and find my child, nothing about Emma until asked...just arragant....this may have shown the Jury who she really is, a heartless snake....I hope it did!

    I told my daughter how she was acting on tape with the face picking, nose picking and the hair thing also resting her head in her hands as if trying to think...my daughter said she sounded like she was on one!!

    When they come back in she tells them it was a Accident in Long Beach that Emma took the baggie and choked on it and when she looked back she was not breathing....she pulled over and checked her breathing and she is not breathing and she has no heart beat so she starts back to AV and stopped in Sylmar and dropped her off there in the lot....no emotion while telling this story...

    LE calls in Homicide Det's Mc Carthy and Nava, so we hear half of the tape today and it's the same story of the baggie....tomorrow is the other half of the tape and Nava will be on the stand because this ran to long.....tomorrow will be the part where she tells them that she put her hand over her nose and mouth and how Emma struggled pulling at her arms until her hands fell limp at her sides and she knew EMMA WAS DEAD!

    I will talk to you all later or tomorrow...

    LC thank you for the Pin's everyone loved them....

    Oh and anyone interested Judge Z said his trial may be dark on Friday (no trial), he will let us know tomorrow, and still no mention of X but they did say that State could wrap up their case as soon as Thursday! then it is Dagers turn.....T

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  18. Hey Ann,

    That is where SB and BB said they were going when they said they were going to leave town and change their names....she has a Aunt in TX, RD said that she was just going to move there because of all the distention that was going on in the family towards her....yeah right!! lol T

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  19. Hi Kat and all,

    Here is today's short story...

    They Played the audio recording of her first Interview filled with emotion about what happened to HER...only asked or said something about Emma when led to a discussion about Emma maybe being cold and scared somewhere and how they had 100 people looking for her, that is when she said yeah she might be scared and cold I need my baby....ok..

    Now they play the Audio and Video of the second Interview and the Video shows her with a sad face when the Det's are begging her to tell them what happened to Emma and they know that sometimes Accidents happen and that if that did happen she would not be thought of as a bad person, Please help us bring Emma home, you want her, your Mom wants her and we want her home she continues to say that she didn't know where she is and she didn't do anything to Emma, SHE SWEARS! The Det leave the room and this whole different persona comes out, she looks bored, tired and annoyed, she is picking at her forehead (pimple) running her fingers down and throught the length of her hair, picking her nose (often) drinking water and doing the hair thing again this time she is looking at her ends to see if there are any split ends.

    She looks like she thinks these people are Idiots and she is fooling them, this part of the tape of her alone is 5 to 7 mins long...no crying at all! the Det's come back in as she hears the door opening she starts with the sad face again....ooooohhhhhhhh pissed me off... this happens again like 15 min later, same thing she is different when the Det's are gone....RD objects that they are showing tooooo long of the time alone she has...Over Ruled...

    JZ has seen this Video for the first time ever, he tells the Jury to go on break and when they left he said "I want it on record why I over ruled RD for excessive content....It goes to show her demeaner, she seems to be aloof and busy checking out her split ends, she does this for the whole 5 to 7 min's"

    She does think she is quite the actress....but she is not fooling anyone, I remember thinking when I heard about this Video Interview way back in the prelim that she may have had a "Tude" but this is worse then I ever thought it would be, it looked like she was not one bit interested in being there, she looked Irratated (sp), she did not say just hurry up and find my child, nothing about Emma until asked...just arragant....this may have shown the Jury who she really is, a heartless snake....I hope it did!

    I told my daughter how she was acting on tape with the face picking, nose picking and the hair thing also resting her head in her hands as if trying to think...my daughter said she sounded like she was on one!!

    When they come back in she tells them it was a Accident in Long Beach that Emma took the baggie and choked on it and when she looked back she was not breathing....she pulled over and checked her breathing and she is not breathing and she has no heart beat so she starts back to AV and stopped in Sylmar and dropped her off there in the lot....no emotion while telling this story...

    LE calls in Homicide Det's Mc Carthy and Nava, so we hear half of the tape today and it's the same story of the baggie....tomorrow is the other half of the tape and Nava will be on the stand because this ran to long.....tomorrow will be the part where she tells them that she put her hand over her nose and mouth and how Emma struggled pulling at her arms until her hands fell limp at her sides and she knew EMMA WAS DEAD!

    I will talk to you all later or tomorrow...

    LC thank you for the Pin's everyone loved them....

    Oh and anyone interested Judge Z said his trial may be dark on Friday (no trial), he will let us know tomorrow, and still no mention of X but they did say that State could wrap up their case as soon as Thursday! then it is Dagers turn.....T

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  20. what the heck Kat am I tired or what? can you remove the double post???? shoot this stuff has my mind mush!!! thanks.

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  21. Hi,

    Mrs.Borrelli(BB'S Mom) was telling BB and Gary B what was being done and said in the courtroom last week and someone told Det.Nava about it.so from what I hear she is being watched.

    I think she is concerned for her son and now knows what a ho SB is and told him so...She has been in court for the last couple of days, if it was my son that was mixed up with this LYING conniving chick, I would be there too to see if she is going to try to blame any of it on him!

    She and her Attorney have tried to drag everyone through the mud using the blame game so far,so why not BB too....anyone she can use to take the spotlight off of herself she will use!

    I was shocked as many are that she would sit there and let RD say rude and hurtful things to her Mother...I am sure when her Dad gets on the stand she will not let him trash him the way he did Sue and Nick...

    Today John Doe (wit X) was on the stand and I felt he did a GOOD job..he gave RD all the answer's that RD did not want...LOL

    JD said that SB told him that BB "OWED HER ONE" that "SHE WOULD BE OUT WITH HIM RIGHT NOW IF HE HAD JUST STUCK TO THE STORY but he is out having a good time, watching football and hanging out while I am stuck in here"
    JD said she told him she was pissed at BB now...

    They play a tape of a phone call from the Jail from SB to her parents..on this tape she is telling her parents that "SHE IS SCREWED" over and over again because they (Nava & Mc Carthy) had taken measurements of her and someone was going to see if she could have even been playing PAB like she said, well the seat is not in the position for her stature.....she is scared shitless on this tape.....she said the driver seat was farther back because she moved it to look for something that night.....

    People are not stupid....HER FEET WERE VERY CLEAN IN THE SART PHOTOS, HER SANDALS WERE OFF AND THROWN AROUND THE CAR WHEN LE CAME ON SCENE... SHE WAS IN THE PASSANGER SEAT DAZED AND CONFUSED, SO MUCH SO THAT SHE COULD NOT MOVE, ONLY LAY THERE WITH THE CELL PHONE IN HER HAND AT HER SIDE NOT EVEN TO HER EAR....SHE TOLD OFFICERS THAT IS WHERE SHE WOKE UP AND HAD BEEN IN AND OUT OF IT FROM THE BUMP ON HER HEAD THE WHOLE TIME....SO WHEN DID SHE MOVE THE SEAT TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING?????????

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  22. *CONT*
    The security officer from PNR said "the silver Mazda pulled in with no headlights on and a MALE was driving, she saw the light to a cell phone come on and 10 mins later a Maroon or Red car came in and the guy driving the Mazda left with that person, 20 Mins later a blue car pulls in and the male driving the Mazda earlier and another man get out and then a flurry of LE pull into the PNR behind them...so someone was driving SB'S car and had to move the seat to drive because they are taller then SB and needed more room to drive!!!! she is worried about the measurements because if they measure BB will the seat fit him???

    There is much more to this story then is coming out right now, I feel we will see another hearing very soon where much much more will be told...JD has a lot to say, he said more at the last hearing then he did today....I think they will call him as a wit in that case!!!

    I think the people have already seen the true side of SB and for the ones that didn't attend court to her what she told LE on Tape that happened you are in for a rude awakening....she is a liar, self centered, a spoiled brat and in RD'S own words of what a RAT is she is a Rat too..

    He tells JD that a Rat (in jail) is someone that would do anything, say anything or use anyone to survive or get what they want! JD said "WOW" I didn't know that...really! truly a jail rat is someone that rats you out, meaning tells on you when you have told them something that can hurt you or get you more time.....I have never heard RD'S version of rat...LOL

    Monday Det. Nava is on the stand then State will rest and RD will call his wits and JZ thinks this will be done by Wed.....

    JZ is stressed by everything in this case he even said he needed a break from discussion of it so he would talk about it another time...you could see at times how frustrated he was getting.

    Anyway, you all have a good weekend and I will see you on Mon....T

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  23. Oh yeah one other thought.. Thanks LC everyone got their pins and wore them proud today!I want to thank you for this quote also, as all her wits are going to say what a Great Mother she was.....

    I WAS A GREAT DRIVER UNTIL THAT DAY I DRANK A 12 PACK AND HIT THAT TREE...I REALLY MESSED UP!

    Sure she was a great Mother until that day she did what she did.....She really messed up!
    Yep LC I still remember you saying that at her grave site that day! it was good and stuck with me....

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  24. Any update on this case? I am a former Co-Worker and we are all holding our breaths to see what happens.

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  25. Hello Anon 5/17 9:58 pm -
    If you read through the comments left on this post and the Day Two of Testimony post, you will find summaries of each day of trial written by Toria. Tori has been attending the hearings, we have had long discussions almost evry night after trial has atarted.

    Unfortunately, I haven't had the time required to write up blogs as I had planned (coverage from days one and two took 9 hours each to write up and format into cohesive blogs) so I'm very grateful to Tori for putting her summaries of what happened in court each day here for all to read. I can tell you that the state rested it's case yesterday and the defense started putting on their case in chief. First defense witness was Stacey's father, Amber B. and Jennifer G. (from BOA) are on the defense list too. I didn't have a chance to talk to Tori tonight to see if they were called today. Judge Zackey thinks the trial will wrap up this week....then it will be in the hands of the jury.....thanks for stopping by!

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