UPDATE 9/9- The preliminary hearing in this case has been continued until October 4, 2010 . Also, Kristi Preimesberger's attorney filed a motion for her to either be released on her own recognizance or to have her bail reduced, both were denied, so for now she remains in jail in Washoe County NV along with her brother Timothy Morgan.
Four months after Kay Wilson of New Mexico last spoke with her son Eric Preimesberger, 29, and his young children, she is finally getting answers to what really happened to her son and why her daughter-in- law Kristi left the state with her and Eric's children, cutting off all contact with Kay.
The answers are certainly not the answers anyone wanted to hear, but there is no turning back time. Because the details of the story, for the most part, have come from those who have been charged with killing Eric and covering up his death, and the criminal investigation continues, this story may change over time as more evidence is revealed.
For now, this is what we know for sure, Tim Morgan, 25 is charged with a $1 million warrant for the murder of Eric Preimesberger, and his sister Kristi Preimesberger, 30 (Eric's wife of 7 years and mother of his 2 young children) is being held on a $100,000 cash bail on a material witness warrant.
During Kay's last conversation with Eric and his children on April 20, they were excited about a move to Eugene,Oregon at the end of the month. I should note that even though both Eric and Kristi's parents live in NM and Eric, Kristi and their kids had been living in Reno, NV they spoke regularly on the phone.
Eric and Kristi's brother,Tim Morgan, were planning to start a business building and selling Yurts up in Eugene. Work had been scarce in Reno for a while and that caused problems, although I 've heard their marriage has been stormy for some time. It seemed as though this move might be a fresh start for the family. Eric also told his mother that he was glad Tim was coming to Reno to help them move, especially because his (recently injured) ankle was still bothering him. Things definitely did not go as planned.................or did they?
What really happened at the couple’s Red Baron Boulevard home, in Reno, between April 20th and 24th, aside from the fact Eric was killed, is still in question because of the changing and suspicious stories that Kristi told.
For those not very familiar with this case, Kristi told Eric's family that she and Eric had argued because she was sick in bed and Eric felt "that" had ruined their anniversary on April 20.
Later it's learned that Kristi had went to get dinner for the family from Applebee's and had not come back until the wee hours of the morning......so yes they probably did argue, especially if she told her husband the same story she told her mother.
Kristi's mother, Karen, told Kay that Kristi had called her (in NM ) at 11:30 p.m. on 4/20 wanting her father's phone number. She said she needed to ask him about how to drive in a snowstorm. It's not clear if she made contact with her dad, but at 2:30 a.m. 4/21 Kristi called her mom's phone again but the call went unanswered because her mother was in bed. The next morning , Karen called the number back. A man answered, when she said she had a call from his number he asked ,"Do you have a daughter named Kristi?" After she said yes, he told Karen that Kristi had knocked on his door and wanted to use his phone. He mentioned she wasn't properly dressed for the weather, so he let her in to use the phone and she left. It's not clear if Kristi left a message when she called her mom at 2:30 or told her this the next day, but Kristi claimed she got lost in the snowstorm, ended up at an apartment complex and walked around until she found a light on and knocked on the door asking to use the phone...... Here is another bizarre aspect of this story.....the weather summary for 4/20 and 4/21 at wunderground.com was Reno only had .57" precipitation over those 2 days, hardly enough to run your wipers let alone get lost.
Kristi said that after a heated argument Eric threw his cellphone along with the keys to his scooter at her and stormed off on foot, with just a backpack, saying they would never see him again.
I bring the reason for the argument up between Eric and Kristi because I wonder if this argument had anything to do with Tim showing up in Reno so soon, given that they weren't going to move until the end of the month. Could this incident have something to do with the argument between Tim and Eric? These are questions that we really don't know the answers to yet.
Kristi said that after a heated argument Eric threw his cellphone along with the keys to his scooter at her and stormed off on foot, with just a backpack, saying they would never see him again.
I bring the reason for the argument up between Eric and Kristi because I wonder if this argument had anything to do with Tim showing up in Reno so soon, given that they weren't going to move until the end of the month. Could this incident have something to do with the argument between Tim and Eric? These are questions that we really don't know the answers to yet.
Although after April 20th there was no contact between Eric and his family or friends and the 20th was also the last day Eric (his user name was RuckRider) posted a comment at an online forum that he frequented named totalruckus.com, there is some confusion over when Eric was last seen. Kristi said he was back and forth getting things from the house until the 24th.
Kay was suspicious hearing that Eric left without any means of transportation, especially his beloved Ruckus scooter, and more suspicious yet when he didn't make contact with any of his family or friends, but when Kristi didn't want to file a missing person's report and moved to Eugene just 8 days after she said Eric left, Kay knew something was wrong.
Kay filed a missing person's report with Reno PD on May 17. Within a month Eric's missing status was changed from missing adult to a suspicious endangered missing adult and the case was moved to the Robbery/Homicide division to allow more resources for what now was an interstate investigation.
Kay was suspicious hearing that Eric left without any means of transportation, especially his beloved Ruckus scooter, and more suspicious yet when he didn't make contact with any of his family or friends, but when Kristi didn't want to file a missing person's report and moved to Eugene just 8 days after she said Eric left, Kay knew something was wrong.
Kay filed a missing person's report with Reno PD on May 17. Within a month Eric's missing status was changed from missing adult to a suspicious endangered missing adult and the case was moved to the Robbery/Homicide division to allow more resources for what now was an interstate investigation.
By June 16, when the Oregon police tried to contact them, Kristi, the kids and her brother Tim were missing from Eugene as well. On July 2, Kristi and Tim contacted their mother in NM and said they were safe, but wouldn't disclose their location. Kristi also contacted the police in Reno sometime in July, but gave the same information she had given before she left Reno, she said she had moved to Oregon because Eric had walked out on her and the kids, but in an action that garnered more suspicion, she refused to disclose where they were living.
Valhall at "The Hinky Meter" has some very interesting information about Tim and Kristi's activities before they fled the Northwest for Minnesota, you can read what she has to say here.
I'll give you a hint of what to look for, in Oregon they used the aliases of Emmet and Mary. Like this story wasn't strange enough. ~insert katfish rolling eyes~
Reno PD also told Kay that Eric and Kristi's children,ages 6 and 22 months, were safe and in Child Protective Services in MN. She was informed her grandchildren would go to the custody of Kristi's mother, in New Mexico, per Kristi's wishes, as the only remaining parent of the children. While Kay would like to have the children herself, she was somewhat consoled that the kids are with someone they know and love. For some reason, at this point she hasn't been allowed to see her grandchildren.....that is just wrong in this writers opinion.....hopefully that will be rectified soon in the best interest of the kids....they have lost enough!
Timothy Morgan and Kristi Preimesberger Mugshots, photos courtesy of Ramsey County Jail |
RGJ. com out of Eugene has reported,
" Court records show that once Kristi Preimesberger was aware police in Oregon were helping investigate her husband’s disappearance, she fled to Minnesota with Morgan and her kids." * I've been told there is reason to believe that Tim (not sure about Kristi) stayed in Oregon until the end of July.....katfishponders hasn't heard why they ended up in MN of all places,
but the fact remains....... you can run, but you can't hide.....when you're a dumb ass.
According to PiPress in the Twin Cities," Timothy Wayne Morgan, 25, was arrested Aug. 10 at the Residence Inn by Marriott on Centre Pointe Drive on suspicion of felony drug possession, according to Roseville, MN police. He was later charged in MN with suspicion of being a fugitive from justice. His sister, Kristi Michelle Preimesberger, 30, was arrested Aug. 12 on suspicion of being a fugitive from justice and child endangerment.
Reno police charged him with the murder of Eric Preimesberger and Kristi is considered a material witness to her husband's killing, investigators said.
The narcotics arrest turned out to be a lucky break for Reno investigators, who had been looking for the brother-sister duo for weeks, said Reno police Lt. Robert Nuttall. Roseville police were called to an area hotel Aug. 10 on a report of a suspicious item left behind in a room used by Morgan and his sister. The two, along with Morgan's girlfriend and Preimesberger's two children, had checked out, said Roseville police Lt. Lorne Rosand."We sat on the room until someone came back," he said. Morgan returned and was arrested. Officers recovered a large amount of narcotics and seized a sizable amount of cash, Rosand said.
Investigators questioned Preimesberger and released her for the night. Rosand said the department put her up in an area motel so she could be questioned the next day about the narcotics. Police were not aware of the missing-persons case until they received a call the next morning from Reno investigators.
Rosand said Reno police were tipped off by Kristi Preimesberger's mother, who received a call from her daughter after Roseville police dropped her off at the motel. Reno investigators flew to Minnesota on Aug. 11 and interviewed the siblings. Kristi Preimesberger was arrested, and her children were placed in protective custody, Rosand said. He didn't know how long they had been in the metro area, but their stay involved multiple motel rooms and multiple cars, he said."
Morgan and Preimesberger were extradited to Reno on Monday August 23 and are being held in the Washoe County Jail. During their first appearance in Reno Justice Court,Timothy Morgan and Kristi Preimesberger were given a Sept. 8 preliminary hearing date regarding the murder of Eric Preimesberger.
The pictures at the left are of Kristi and Tim's mugshots in Nevada. Notice a little difference? In the Minnesota pictures they are both glassy eyed and most likely high.....the Nevada pictures have the appearance of addicts in withdrawal. Not a pretty sight! What is really ugly, is the thought about what Eric and Kristi's children have been exposed to the last four months.
Court records show that during an interview with police, Morgan said that after he struck Eric Preimesberger in the head twice with a bat, he and his sister moved his bleeding body into a laundry room. A few hours later, they realized he was dead. They then placed him in the back of a vehicle, where his rotting body was concealed for days while Morgan figured out what to do with him.
The siblings never called police or summoned medical assistance.According to an arrest affidavit, Morgan rented a moving truck and a commercial freezer, which he used to transport Eric's body. He dumped his body near Frenchman’s Reservoir, in Plumas County, California (about 38 miles NW of Reno, and 8 miles from the nearest town ) before taking the freezer to another location and burning evidence related to the crime.
Detectives found the remains of Eric Preimesberger on Aug19. Police allege Morgan killed Eric on April 24 during an altercation. No doubt the coroner or medical examiner will attempt to determine if Morgan's story matches up to the forensics obtained from Eric's remains. The state of Nevada will be cremating Eric's remains and hopefully assist in returning him to his family in New Mexico.
Arrangements have not been made yet, although Eric's mother said they are in the process of planning a celebration of Eric's life for the near future.
Katfish.....ponders will continue following this case. When this goes to trial it seems like a good case for TruTV's InSession to cover. NV does allow cameras in the courtroom. Depending how the defendants plead in this case, it could be a few years before a trial happens. Any ideas how we can bring this to the attention of the producers at InSession?
* This post has been edited, katfishponders was notified that even though the msm reported Kristi worked as a stripper, while that was true in the past, she didn't work "dancing" in Reno. It was also brought to my attention that Tim was definitely in Oregon at the end of July, a fact that can be established by an encounter with police.
Please feel free to notify me if you see something published here that you think might not be correct. I strive to provide accurate reporting here but sometimes I have to rely on what is reported in the news and they don't always "get it right"; therefore, I'm glad to correct or amend something posted on katfishponders that isn't accurate. You can reach me through the e-mail on my profile page.
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but the fact remains....... you can run, but you can't hide.....when you're a dumb ass.
According to PiPress in the Twin Cities," Timothy Wayne Morgan, 25, was arrested Aug. 10 at the Residence Inn by Marriott on Centre Pointe Drive on suspicion of felony drug possession, according to Roseville, MN police. He was later charged in MN with suspicion of being a fugitive from justice. His sister, Kristi Michelle Preimesberger, 30, was arrested Aug. 12 on suspicion of being a fugitive from justice and child endangerment.
Reno police charged him with the murder of Eric Preimesberger and Kristi is considered a material witness to her husband's killing, investigators said.
The narcotics arrest turned out to be a lucky break for Reno investigators, who had been looking for the brother-sister duo for weeks, said Reno police Lt. Robert Nuttall. Roseville police were called to an area hotel Aug. 10 on a report of a suspicious item left behind in a room used by Morgan and his sister. The two, along with Morgan's girlfriend and Preimesberger's two children, had checked out, said Roseville police Lt. Lorne Rosand."We sat on the room until someone came back," he said. Morgan returned and was arrested. Officers recovered a large amount of narcotics and seized a sizable amount of cash, Rosand said.
Investigators questioned Preimesberger and released her for the night. Rosand said the department put her up in an area motel so she could be questioned the next day about the narcotics. Police were not aware of the missing-persons case until they received a call the next morning from Reno investigators.
Rosand said Reno police were tipped off by Kristi Preimesberger's mother, who received a call from her daughter after Roseville police dropped her off at the motel. Reno investigators flew to Minnesota on Aug. 11 and interviewed the siblings. Kristi Preimesberger was arrested, and her children were placed in protective custody, Rosand said. He didn't know how long they had been in the metro area, but their stay involved multiple motel rooms and multiple cars, he said."
Morgan and Preimesberger were extradited to Reno on Monday August 23 and are being held in the Washoe County Jail. During their first appearance in Reno Justice Court,Timothy Morgan and Kristi Preimesberger were given a Sept. 8 preliminary hearing date regarding the murder of Eric Preimesberger.
Kristi Michelle Preimesberger |
Court records show that during an interview with police, Morgan said that after he struck Eric Preimesberger in the head twice with a bat, he and his sister moved his bleeding body into a laundry room. A few hours later, they realized he was dead. They then placed him in the back of a vehicle, where his rotting body was concealed for days while Morgan figured out what to do with him.
Timothy Wayne Morgan |
The siblings never called police or summoned medical assistance.According to an arrest affidavit, Morgan rented a moving truck and a commercial freezer, which he used to transport Eric's body. He dumped his body near Frenchman’s Reservoir, in Plumas County, California (about 38 miles NW of Reno, and 8 miles from the nearest town ) before taking the freezer to another location and burning evidence related to the crime.
Detectives found the remains of Eric Preimesberger on Aug19. Police allege Morgan killed Eric on April 24 during an altercation. No doubt the coroner or medical examiner will attempt to determine if Morgan's story matches up to the forensics obtained from Eric's remains. The state of Nevada will be cremating Eric's remains and hopefully assist in returning him to his family in New Mexico.
Arrangements have not been made yet, although Eric's mother said they are in the process of planning a celebration of Eric's life for the near future.
Katfish.....ponders will continue following this case. When this goes to trial it seems like a good case for TruTV's InSession to cover. NV does allow cameras in the courtroom. Depending how the defendants plead in this case, it could be a few years before a trial happens. Any ideas how we can bring this to the attention of the producers at InSession?
* This post has been edited, katfishponders was notified that even though the msm reported Kristi worked as a stripper, while that was true in the past, she didn't work "dancing" in Reno. It was also brought to my attention that Tim was definitely in Oregon at the end of July, a fact that can be established by an encounter with police.
Please feel free to notify me if you see something published here that you think might not be correct. I strive to provide accurate reporting here but sometimes I have to rely on what is reported in the news and they don't always "get it right"; therefore, I'm glad to correct or amend something posted on katfishponders that isn't accurate. You can reach me through the e-mail on my profile page.
Absolutely another excellent read here. I'm so glad you are staying on top of this along with Valhall also. Hoping for the best for Kay and her family and patiently awaiting justice for Eric.
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ReplyDeleteThank you for commenting! I still have Kay and her family in my prayers.....and especially little Ivy and Damien! Their world has been turned upside down.
Hi, Katfish!
ReplyDeleteIt's me . ...Ann-Tx! Excellent article and I am so glad you and Valhall (The Hinky Meter) are following this case. I'm glad you plan to follow it to the end.
I suggest you write In Session and send your articles along with Links to the articles by Valhall. Maybe post a comment on one of Val's threads asking her posters to send an e-mail to In Session suggesting they cover updates now and then the trial. I think it would be an excellent case for In Session.
How many siblings do this horrific act? This would be a unique case for In Session.
My prayers and thoughts are with Kay and Eric's family. I do hope Karen will let the children see Kay. Karen needs to quip playing the alienating grandmother!
I posted the Link to an interesting article, at Valhall's, about children and alienating parents . . . just substitute grandmother for mother!
Hi Ann,
ReplyDeleteThat's a great idea, I'll leave a comment over at Val's blog.I think InSession might be interested in this case. I spent some time last night catching up with my reading over at Hinky Meter. From that reading it seems there has been a lot going on in this case I wasn't aware of....it just gets stranger and stranger. I pray for Eric's family to continue to have strength....the legal system is a long process. I also pray that Karen will do the right thing (allow Kay to see the kids) for the well being of Ivy and Damien, they need to know all of their family loves them. Who knows what kind of crap Kristi put in their heads these past few months? :(
the donations on here for eric's children is a fraud,the kids are not in NM. the account needs to be closed, kay has not been contributing in any way to the well being and care of the kids.
ReplyDeleteAnon 9/4 1:13pm
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your concern about the memorial fund for Eric's children. It was never my understanding that the moneys from these funds would go for the living expenses of Ivy and Damien.I can understand why you might interpret it that way, because of the way it is written,
"There has been a memorial fund set up in Eric’s name for the purpose of covering costs Eric’s mother, Kay, and her family will be facing to ensure the well-being of Eric’s children, Ivy and Damien."
It has been my understanding the funds were to be set back for future needs of the kids on behalf of their father. I noticed many over at The Hinky Meter who contributed told Kay they didn't mind if she used some of the funds to obtain legal representation to ensure the well being of the kids, and that's why it was worded as it was. Whether that be efforts to gain custody of the kids or just to ensure that Kristi does not retain custody of them.
We are all entitled to our opinions....the only ones without a say in this situation are Ivy and Damien, and of course their father, Eric. His parental rights were terminated unlawfully.
I trust the courts to decide what will be in the best interest of these kids, but it only seems right that Eric's voice be heard in the process, it seems Kay is the only one left to speak on his behalf, unless his sisters or cousins are in a better position to do so.
As long as Kristi has parental rights and is either incarcerated or deemed an unfit parent, whoever has the kids in their care should be receiving support for the kids from the state of which they are wards. If they aren't they should be checking that out.
(I know that my sister was a foster parent of 1 of her granddaughters and after several years has been given legal guardianship and still receives assistance from the state.)
For the time being I will leave the memorial fund information up as well as your comment. Whoever decides they want to donate will do so while aware of your concerns.
the memorial fund account has been offically closed...
ReplyDeleteAnon 9/11 3:33pm-
ReplyDeleteThank you, I was aware of that and took down all of the information about the fund from both entries where I had posted it yesterday. This whole case is a sad sad situation from every perspective. I hope the grandparents who have the children either buy them some nice things or invest the money in bonds or something for the kid's future. I trust the money won't be used to support Tim and Kristi in any way, that I am certain was not the intention of anyone who donated.
just so everyone knows kay didn't file a missing report on eric for weeks and kristi's parents are the ones that kept prodding her to do so, karen told her that if it were her kid she would have done so immediately. she used a lame excuse if you ask me,the spouse isn't the only one that can report them missing,if that were the case, then there would be a lot of people go un reported...
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ReplyDeleteJust so everyone knows....I don't understand your comment. The who and whens of the "missing person's report" did seem an important factor when Eric was "just a missing person". I don't get your point about it now?
I'm pretty sure you're not implying that if Kay would have listened to Kristi's parents, the outcome of this case would have been any different.....because Eric was already dead and buried days before ANYONE sought to file a missing person's report.
I hope I'm wrong, but your comment seems to say....let's kick Eric's family while they're down. I don't get the point of that either.
Kristi's parents NEVER requested that Kay file a missing person's report.
ReplyDeleteKristi said there was NO reason to file a missing person's report and a dead beat dad that just walked out on their family.
Kristie was pissed a Kay FOR filing the missing person's report.
Karen made it clear that Krisiti just needed to get on with her life cuz Eric walked out. Karen, neither wanted a missing persons report filed.
Karen's children KILLED Eric and shoved him in a freezer then burried him 6 foot under.
Katfish, if this person posts again, I would like to know about it, to retaliate.
Karen if this is you...watch your tongue...you are going to reap what you are sowing!
Randie
KAREN...OOPS ANONYMOUS,you really are a piece of work!! I reported Eric missing as soon as they would let me, I was told if he really was missing his wife would surly have reported him missing. I finally got a person higher up on the food chain.... What is the point of this attack anyway?? He was DEAD!!!!!EVEN IF I COULD HAVE REPORTED HIM MISSING ON THE 24TH LIKE I TRIED, HE WAS ALREADY MURDERED BY YOUR CHILDREN!!!! SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT???
ReplyDeleteKAY, AT LEAST I HAVE THE GUTS TO SIGN MY NAME!!
Karen your bullisht is just as stinky over here as it is on the hinky GET A LIFE NO ONE BELIEVES YOU
ReplyDelete"you can run, but you can't hide.....when you're a dumb ass."
ReplyDeleteLOLOL Loved that Katfish!
Kay, please don't let them do this to you. I can't imagine how hard it is to take the high road but you have throughout this whole mess and I have learned a thing or two from you by reading all of your comments. I can't tell you how disgusted I am with the DM and her daughter. I just can't understand how people can be so cruel. I mean really, are we in fact living in Hell? Sometimes it seems like it. Karen's statements about Eric are pointless as you said, no wonder her kids could kill someone and toss them like trash.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you shouldn't read the blogs for awhile....or at least I hope you are talking to someone...maybe your pastor or the head of your church(not sure with JW what the head of the church is called)...I am so sad that you have endured this kind of treatment. Karen should be ashamed but I'm sure she isn't. Sick Sick Sick
I was going to make a comment on THM to you in response to the one about my son to thank you for sharing your story but I saw yours and decided to leave you a comment here. I hope someday soon you can join THM as a regular.
Thanks, katfish, for all the work you did on this case.
LOL on the 4:02 pm comment
P.S. Kay~My son is doing better. Still home. I'm still praying. For him and you and everyone who needs prayer.
I don't understand, anonymous, why would Kristi's parents be prodding Kay to file a missing persons report? This truely shows ignorance on their part and also yours for posting that here. THEY SHOULD HAVE PRODDED KRISTI.......OMG, you just can't fix stupid and it's scary knowing they walk among us... I am sorry Kay, that you are having to endure this nonsense while in mourning. You are truely a very strong woman. Justice for Eric and his family..... Ana
ReplyDeleteJust for the record NO ONE in Kristi's family EVER urged me to report him missing. I reported him missing DAY AFTER DAY UNTIL the sub-station finally decided that after 20 days since the first time I called, and the fact that I demanded to speak to someone in charge that maybe Eric was missing.....even though his wife would not report him missing. I guess we all know now why she did not want anyone to be looking for him. When Karen told her I had reported him missing Kristi called YELLING at me, how dare I overstep my bounds that I should have checked with her first and gotten her permission to do so. As I say NOW WE ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHY DON'T WE!!!!! YOU WANT TO DISPARAGE ME ABOUT WHEN I REPORTED MY SON MISSING?? Your children MURDERED my son and you want to know why I didn't report him missing sooner? . WHY DID YOUR CHILDREN NOT CALL AN AMBULANCE FOR MY SON??? MY SON MAY HAVE DONE SOME THINGS WRONG IN HIS LIFE, BUT HE NEVER COMMITTED MURDER!!!!! YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MY SON SUPPOSEDLY PUT YOUR DAUGHTER IN THE HOSPITAL, at least he did not kill her put her in a freezer, wait then take her out to the middle of no where and dispose of her like TRASH!!!
ReplyDeleteNOW THAT IS THE LAST I WILL SPEAK OF THIS, BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS REPORTED MISSING IS NOW A MOOT POINT!!!
Proud to be Eric's mother
Kay Wilson
"Kristi Preimesberger's attorney filed a motion for her to either be released on her own recognizance or to have her bail reduced, both were denied!"
ReplyDeleteThank GOD for small favors - may she never walk free again when she is found guilty!
Kay hang in there!
Kat as always thanks for keeping us informed!
LCM....are you sitting down? Kristi has not been charged with anything related to Eric's death. Nevada has some sort of "sibling law" that has made it difficult to charge her in NV since her brother Tim is taking the rap. I don't understand the specifics of this crazy law but even though she allegedly has made statements to police that she watched Tim beat Eric and helped Tim move him to the laundry room where he laid until he died. She is only being held on a material witness bond. I need to look up more about this sibling law....I have never heard of such a thing....have you?
ReplyDeleteSeptember 24, 2010 1:29 PM
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
Karen your bullisht is just as stinky over here as it is on the hinky GET A LIFE NO ONE BELIEVES YOU
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Hi, Katfish! This is Ann-Tx. Hope you are doing better!
Regarding the 1:29 p.m., I agree! Katfish, I sure hope your pond does not get muddied and trashed because your site is too nice for that!
Hi Ann-TX, Glad to "see you" :)
ReplyDeleteMy knee is starting to do better I had fluid drained out of it the other day, which seems to be helping. Hope to be "back up and running" (as in typing hehe) real soon. (Believe it or not sitting feels the worst.)
As for issue in the other part of your comment,Anne-Tx, thanks for bringing it up.I have wanted to address this.
The following is addressed to anyone reading here:
I have never allowed bashing crime victim's or their families on my blog, but recently I've let a few comments through that I shouldn't have. I don't feel it is fair to bash the family of the accused either, as long as they aren't obstructing justice or inciting trouble. I understand the need to stand by someone you love who finds themselves in trouble, but if you can't support them without bashing the victim or their family, please don't comment here...those type of posts will be removed.
I am interested everyone's views pertaining to the legal aspects of the cases I write about....not views about personal issues. We are all entitled to our own opinions, but I know for a fact differing views can be shared without bashing others.
I wanted to let you know a check was sent to the g-pa that has to kids and a generous donation of clothes has been sent by two different people one of them being Kay.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rgj.com/article/20101006/NEWS01/101006042 this is what happened today in court
ReplyDeleteKay
Hi, Katfish!
ReplyDeleteIt's me Ann-Tx! Just dropping by to say hi! Glad your knee is doing better. You will be up and running before long!
I sure hope Kristi does not get out on bond! If she does get out, it will not surprise me if she runs!
Katfish, regarding the Lucas Coe Trial and the Emma Thompson Case, Coe was found guilty and sentenced to Life in Prison without parole. Because the charge was "Super" he will never, ever get out on parole.
Justice has been served for 4-year-old Emma Thompson!
There is a thread on Reality Chatter: Emma Thompson -- Deceased 6-27-09. It is kept updated!
If you have time, please stop by! Thanks, Katfish!
Hope your husband is doing well.
more clothes and toys are on the way to the grand kids and another check will be sent after next pay day. Just an update from Kay's family, we are sending snow suit and coats and clothes for both kids and my niece from CA. is sending more clothes for Dee and stuff for Ivy too. Just wanted all to know that the money that was in the in memorial acct. was sent to the G-Pa in Montana.Just as was promised, it would have been so nice if someone would NOT have lied to my bank that the money was not for the kids. Just because we did not have the kids did not mean that the money would not go to the kids. we feel it is kind of like paying child support, we just thought others would like to help them out too.
ReplyDeletesorry for the rant, but thanks to all who helped us.
Eric's family
I don't know if Tim reads here, but I do know Karen does, so Kristi knows what is written here, there is proof of that when something is posted here that Karen wants to comment on she sends me a text msg.
ReplyDeleteSo Karen, tell your children this, When They murdered Eric, they not only killed Eric, they killed our family, look at the pictures, as I have been. Timothy and Kristi killed Ivy and Dee' father, their family, their future happiness. Ivy will not have her daddy to walk her down the Isle, Dee will not have his daddy to take him fishing and camping and teach him the joy his daddy felt riding a dirt bike or a ruckus scooter. Oh there may be someone to do those things for them like their g-pa's but it won't be Eric, it will not be their FATHER!! There will be a hole in OUR family, there will be a hole in my heart that will hurt far longer than I want to think. Both of them lied to me and to you numerous times as to what had happened to my sweet son, my Eric. They desecrated his body, they lied about why he was not with his family, they both did these things Karen, just because of some idiotic law in Nevada that does NOT mean Kristi is not just as guilty as Timothy, I know that as a christian woman you know that is the truth.
I do not think I could defend Eric if he had done this to Ivy and Dee's mother, I would still as a mother love him, but I could not forgive him for doing something so HORRENDOUS, as to bash in the head of the one he was to love and cleave to, the one he, the day they married, became one flesh with! How could you kill half of yourself, or watch as someone else did, then drag that half off to die alone, cold and still be able to look at yourself in the mirror and not have horrible nightmares every time you close your eyes? So Tim and Kristi how could you kill someone who loved you both so much? Kristi, did you know that Eric was bragging about you on the 20th? He was so proud of you, you were so close to getting the degree you needed to be able to be a medical transcriptionest. Tim, he loved you like a brother and had since you guys, you Donny and Eric and the rest, met so many years ago.
So when you took Eric, so brutally, you changed the dynamics of who his kids will be, who his older brother and little sister will be, and we as parents will be, BOTH sets of parents. This is what was stolen from all of us. How are we ever going to explain to those two sweet babies. Their uncle and their mother willingly and deliberately and with out an ounce of remorse with an absence of compassion for anyone,they brutally hit him not once, but multiple times IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD!!! He will be missed by more people than you can ever know. They have sustained me with Eric stories and coming to see us and they call me on Sunday's when Eric used to call. They cannot take his place but they try to take some of deaths ting away. Thanks Val for letting vent. (((HUGS))) to all our supporters, Kay
still ever so proud to be Eric's mother
» Kay Eric's mom said: { Oct 28, 2010 - 10:10:18 }
ReplyDeleteI don’t know if Tim reads here, but I do know Karen does, so Kristi knows what is written here, there is proof of that when something is posted here that Karen wants to comment on she sends me a text msg.
So Karen, tell your children this, When They murdered Eric, they not only killed Eric, they killed our family, look at the pictures, as I have been. Timothy and Kristi killed Ivy and Dee’ father, their family, their future happiness. Ivy will not have her daddy to walk her down the Isle, Dee will not have his daddy to take him fishing and camping and teach him the joy his daddy felt riding a dirt bike or a ruckus scooter. Oh there may be someone to do those things for them like their g-pa’s but it won’t be Eric, it will not be their FATHER!! There will be a hole in OUR family, there will be a hole in my heart that will hurt far longer than I want to think. Both of them lied to me and to you numerous times as to what had happened to my sweet son, my Eric. They desecrated his body, they lied about why he was not with his family, they both did these things Karen, just because of some idiotic law in Nevada that does NOT mean Kristi is not just as guilty as Timothy, I know that as a christian woman you know that is the truth. cont.
I do not think I could defend Eric if he had done this to Ivy and Dee’s mother, I would still as a mother love him, but I could not forgive him for doing something so HORRENDOUS, as to bash in the head of the one he was to love and cleave to, the one he, the day they married, became one flesh with! How could you kill half of yourself, or watch as someone else did, then drag that half off to die alone, cold and still be able to look at yourself in the mirror and not have horrible nightmares every time you close your eyes? So Tim and Kristi how could you kill someone who loved you both so much? Kristi, did you know that Eric was bragging about you on the 20th? He was so proud of you, you were so close to getting the degree you needed to be able to be a medical transcriptionest. Tim, he loved you like a brother and had since you guys, you Donny and Eric and the rest, met so many years ago. cont.
ReplyDeleteSo when you took Eric, so brutally, you changed the dynamics of who his kids will be, who his older brother and little sister will be, and we as parents will be, BOTH sets of parents. This is what was stolen from all of us. How are we ever going to explain to those two sweet babies. Their uncle and their mother willingly and deliberately and with out an ounce of remorse with an absence of compassion for anyone,they brutally hit him not once, but multiple times IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD!!! He will be missed by more people than you can ever know. They have sustained me with Eric stories and coming to see us and they call me on Sunday’s when Eric used to call. They cannot take his place but they try to take some of deaths ting away. Thanks Val for letting vent. (((HUGS))) to all our supporters, Kay
ReplyDeletestill ever so proud to be Eric’s mother
KAREN- HOPEFULLY YOU READ HERE. I FOUND ALL THIS LAST WEEK WHILE LOOKING UP TIM OUT OF CURIOUSITY SINCE ITS BEEN 7 YEARS SINCE HE AND I BOTH LEFT NEW MEXICO. WE WERE ALWAYS CLOSE AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO WRITE HIM AND STAY IN TOUCH THROUGH ALL HE IS DEALING WITH. YOU WERE ALWAYS GOOD TO ME AND I HAD ALOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU. PLEASE EMAIL RYAN AT
ReplyDeletergossens500@hotmail.com
So many things have happened since this article was written.
ReplyDeletekatfish, I love your pond, always have!
I have been taught that you sew what you reap. Karen supports her children and STILL WILL NOT LET KAY SEE HER GRANDBABIES.
Karen is not a Christian. Christians put others above themselves and give unselfishly. Karen is the opposit.
Karen, is a robot. She takes ordrs from Kristie. A what a SHAME!!!!!
Randie
Hi Randie!
ReplyDeleteI haven't had much computer time the last couple months. I'm hoping I can spend more time. I just got a net-book, hopefully now I will be able to blog more often since I can take it with me.
I really haven't had time to do much more than keep up with my e-mail. Before I wrote to the Governor about this case, I looked online and found the case information on Tim's case which includes information on Kristi's deposition and her "custody status". I would LOVE to see Kristi's taped deposition. When I have a chance, I'll try to find media reports or more court records to do a write-up.
Everything that has happened in this case, inside and outside the courtroom is a shame....a tragedy.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletethe donations on here for eric's children is a fraud,the kids are not in NM. the account needs to be closed, kay has not been contributing in any way to the well being and care of the kids.
September 4, 2010 1:13 PM
I bet they wish that accnt was still open
To the one posting on December 5, 2010....
ReplyDeleteIt is a shame you are a liar, deciever, and a little behind in the times....
Since you feel the need to post, it is best to get with the program first.
This is what you take the time to post...what a joke!!!!
Keep up the good work Kat!! How you fight for the underdog is awesome!
Randie
Randie, I interpreted that post on Dec.5 differently....I took it to say whoever made the sarcastic post on September 4 probably wishes the account was still open....assuming whoever made the September post has gaurdianship of the kids now. It's hard to interpret what people write sometimes....I could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by! Has there been any activity in Timothy's case? Would you drop me an email and let me know how things are going when you get a chance? I know Christmas had to be very difficult for Eric's family and little Ivy (God bless her). Hopefully D is young enough to be less effected, kids that young exist day to day. He will not stay that young though and one day will hopefully learn the truth about his family
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We have not been able to see the kids, I admit I have not called to see if I can , I try to but before I can bring myself to pick up thr phone I get physically ill. I cannot bring myself to hear Karn, or Kristi's voices. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Kay
ReplyDeleteHi Kay,
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I can think of is that your feeling sick is your subconscious trying to tell you stay away from Karen and Kristi. Good"advice" if you ask me, I really doubt they would allow you any contact with the kids.
Do grandparents have any rights in NM? If so, perhaps a mediator could arrange visits with the kids in a neutral place?
Anyone else have thoughts?
This is part of an email I got from the victims advocate.......
ReplyDeleteHi Kay:
The Trial was continued today. It is now set for September 19, 2011. I know you already made your plans, and I'm very sorry that you will have to change them. The District Attorney objected to the continuance, but the defense attorney requested more time. Unfortunately, in cases as serious as these, the Judge usually grants the continuance to avoid the case coming back on appeal in the future. It is better to do it once, and do it right, covering all bases, than to have the case overturned and then we have to start over again, which only makes it even more re-victimizing.
When the time comes, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, and we'll make the reservation xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you. That is in no way asking too much. This is already hard enough for you. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx It will probably depend on budget issues and the state of our local economy. We'll revisit this in July, when our new fiscal year starts.
Please take care of your health.
I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you. We just finished a murder Trial, and then I was out a couple of days.
Thanks
Gigi
ERIC'S MEMORIAL WILL BE SAT.JULY 16
ReplyDeleteLOVE TO ALL
all of u know one way to get a hold of me either by email or by facebook or phone calls, get a hold of Shane Griffin, Chad Priddy or Coby Preimesberger on facebook (Eric's brother) FB me kay wilson....give anyone wanting my phone number can ask Chsd leave their phone number w/Chad then I will call u back. See some of u soon, Kay
ReplyDeleteanyone with Pictures of Eric with friends or his wife Heather please let me make copies of them I promise after I make copies I will return them to their owners. If u don't want to give me the pix give them to Chad or Shane plz
ReplyDeleteKay, I'm happy to see you and your family are getting to a place to start planning the memorial for Eric (Eruc, lol, I spelled it that way first)It will be so cathartic to formally honor your son's life. I hope many will see your comment here and share their memories and/or pictures with you.
ReplyDeleteAnyone is welcome to e-mail me through my profile page if you don't know how to contact Kay or anyone she listed above. I have Kay's e-mail and would be happy to forward any contributions for the memorial to her, just put Eric in the subject line.
Kay, please don't hesitate to let me know if I can help you in any way. {{{HUGS}}}
Are there any current updates on this case?
ReplyDeleteI recently had intercourse's with Kristy was bomb
ReplyDeleteeww you should check yourself then nasty f*ck
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